Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by GOM » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:40 pm

Hi Jarvo,

Thanks for the comments. As regards how, through a Zoom H2N wired direct to my Mac using Audacity as capture software.
The variable bass is probably due the small room and the fact that I tend to wander around while recording, this has not been a problem when playing sax as the mic is attached. I don't like the effect of direct wiring the Roland it's dead and lifeless to my ear.

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by merv123 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:25 pm

Hi All
Perhaps most people here don,t use midi accordions but here is Agnes Waltz played on a midi shand morino coupled to a Ketron X.D.3..
https://soundcloud.com/merv123/agnes-waltz-0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by Matt Butcher » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:14 pm

Thanks Merv, I enjoyed it, nice pulsing of the bellows, proper slow waltz feel, and I always enjoy the sound of the BCC# (unless I'm playing it). I haven't ever used midi, are the held keyboard notes in the "background" in your recording triggered or are you holding them down as you play?

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by Glenn » Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:32 pm

merv123 wrote:Hi All
Perhaps most people here don,t use midi accordions but here is Agnes Waltz played on a midi shand morino coupled to a Ketron X.D.3..
https://soundcloud.com/merv123/agnes-waltz-0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thanks Merv, I really like it. Steady and solid beat, perfect for dancing I guess.
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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by jarvo » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:39 pm

Solidly played Merv, nice steady beat and tempo.....kudos {} :b

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by merv123 » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:58 pm

Hi Matt..
The background sounds are from the X.D.3 all of the background sounds can be set to play any instrument of choice ..

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by Pippa » Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:46 am

I'm stumbling over line 6, where it goes A7 - Am - Cm - D7. Are those the chords everyone is using, or did anyone find something better?
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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by BobM » Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:19 am

From bar 4 of line 6, I’m using A7 A7 A7/Eb D7. The second to last chord is a 7b5 chord and appears on the Jimmy S recording. You could just stay on a straight A7 as the Eb appears In the melody anyway and there’s no 5th in the LH chord to clash with it.

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by Matt Butcher » Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:12 pm

I knew when I saw the question that BobM would have an elegant solution. I tried a few things (no idea what ended up on my recording which is messy as anything):

- jumping
- slowing down expressively and jumping
- going from Am to Cm but playing the root of G on the first beat of the C minor bar, not such a jump
- playing nothing on the first beat of the Am bar and using the time to move, then playing root C and counterbass E on the second and third beats of the Am bar, then you are in the place for Cm already, bit of an odd sound though

For some reason I didn't ask my teacher's advice, perhaps I still will consult the oracle. So I wouldn't advise you to listen to what I say, I am no stradella guru and I don't know much music theory either whereas BobM is an actual musician. I just wanted to put my ideas up in case anyone had any comments.

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by BobM » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:33 pm

The Eb in the bass and melody of bar 6 of line 6 is a bit of a curved ball but the Cmin chord works ok. I’ve been practicing it as an A7b5 with the Eb in the bass (2nd inversion) as per the JS recording, but I prefer an A7 and let the melody carries the Eb, easier to play too..

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Re: Tune of June - folky: The Agnes Waltz

Post by BobM » Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:15 am

Matt Butcher wrote:
For some reason I didn't ask my teacher's advice, perhaps I still will consult the oracle. So I wouldn't advise you to listen to what I say, I am no stradella guru and I don't know much music theory either whereas BobM is an actual musician. I just wanted to put my ideas up in case anyone had any comments.
Hi Matt, don’t beat yourself up. You’ve posted clips on Soundcloud which is a lot more than me. There are a few tricks to working out chord sequences by ear, and rest assured that the Stradella system has evolved to cope with pieces like these, including the 2 Diminished chords found in the JS recording. :)

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